Ultimately, these questions are of little significance to the meaning of John … kept by the power of God through faith to salvation, συγκολλώμενοί μοι βεβαιώτερον διὰ πίστεως ἀδιστάκτου καὶ σχέσεως ἀῤῥήκτοÏ, οὐ δύναται καρπὸν φέρειν, ποιεῖν τι χωρὶς ἐμοῦ, See that ye abide in Me, and that I abide in you, As the branch cannot bear fruit from itself, Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers. It is a holding fast to Him in trusting obedience. In that suffering state he brought glory to God; and is now exalted to the right hand of the Father. This he proceeds to illustrate by a reference to the vine. Those notes on the text, from 2017,… And I in you - That is, if you remain attached to me, I will remain with you, and will teach, guide, and comfort you. (Galatians 3:3, NKJV). For a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me. To abide in Christ —what does it mean? Indifference and willful disobedience to God’s will means I am not truly a Christian—a follower of Christ—and this means I cannot have fellowship with Jesus Christ and the Father. Answer: In John 15 Jesus uses the relationship of branches to the vine to illustrate our relationship to Him: “I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser.Every branch in me that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. also Jn 21:15–17. (1 John 2:19, NASB95), The abiding believer is the only legitimate believer; John says "As for you, let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. καθὼς τὸ κλῆμα … μείνητε [or μένητε]; illustrating by the figure the necessity of the foregoing injunction. It means— (a) To cherish in mind the constant recollection of the Lord Jesus. God's dealings with mankind are always in a covenant relationship ("if. and as lovely as the vine covered with fruitful branches is at once useful and enticing. . This vine symbolized the nation Israel, because the vine is a familiar Old Testament symbol for Israel (Psalm 80:8-9) but is often used in a negative sense (Isaiah 5:1-2,7 and Jeremiah 2:21). The man who lives without faith in God may be said to exist, rather than to live, and misses the true aim of his being. 1. (Philippians 2:13, NKJV), The result will be joy. . He said that no branch can even live, let alone produce leaves and fruit, by itself. Psalm 80:8 state that God brought a vine out of Egypt. John 15:8(NASB) Verse Thoughts As believers we are positioned in Christ, born into the family of God, made members of the body of Christ and placed in eternal union with our Lord Jesus - and as such we are called upon to glorify our Father, Who is in heaven. 5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. He knows that he will soon be lifeless on a tree — the crucified King. Is John saying you are going to hell because you want that new car? In the Gospels only John records this illustration in which Jesus refers to Himself as the true vine. (John 15:4, NKJV), Paul said "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me." A branch that falls to the ground, and no longer abides in the vine as a living part of it, cannot bear fruit, so neither can ye except ye abide in me. 9–11) 3. (d) To be full of frequent prayer to Him. 4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. The one who remains in me and I in him, he is the one who bears much fruit; for apart from me you can do nothing. That conjunction is reciprocal, the lord himself teaches in John 15:4, 5, 6; and that the conjunction of the lord with man, and of man with the lord, is in those things which are of the lord, which are called his words, verse 7. Believers are branches of this Vine. In Depth with More Light on the Text 1. (John 15:4, NKJV) * [ 15:15 ] Slaves,friends : in the Old Testament, Moses ( Dt 34:5 ), Joshua ( Jos 24:29 ), and David ( Ps 89:21 ) were called “servants” or “slaves of Yahweh”; only Abraham ( Is 41:8 ; 2 Chr 20:7 ; cf. In the 15th chapter of John's gospel our Lord uses the beautiful symbol of the vine and its branches. While we are united to him by a living faith, from the nature of the case, strength flows from him to us, and we receive help as we need. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father. (1 John 2:28, NKJV), He experiences victory over sin "Whoever abides in Him does not sin. as the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine, no more can ye, except ye abide in me; which strongly expresses the necessity of abiding in Christ by fresh repeated acts of faith: and it is easy to observe, that when believers depart from Christ, though it be but partially, and for a time, for they cannot finally and totally depart from him, in what a poor, withered, fruitless condition they are, both in their frames and duties. John 1:12; 3:16; 15:4,7,9). Thus we are particularly well situated to understand something about the culture of the vine, how it grows, and how it produces fruit. John’s Gospel for this Sunday moves into an agrarian mode by focusing on vines and the vine grower. He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit while every branch that does not bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. ", Paul said that "we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, “I will dwell in them and walk among them; And I will be their God, and they shall be My people." The word philos is used here. Jesus draws our attention to a fruitful vine and then provides two primary applications for us to learn from -- pruning the branches and abiding in the vine. It is also possible that both verses were in the original text and that John excluded detail about where Jesus and the disciples went until later in his account (John 18:1). And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.”  (1 John 2:1, NKJV), One illustration is found in Galatians 1:6, where Paul, writing to Christians, says, "I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel," (Galatians 1:6, NKJV), In Galatians 3”3 he said "Are you so foolish? Question: "Does the vine and branches passage in John 15 mean that salvation can be lost?" Includes cross references, questions, teaching points, outline, and applications on John chapter 15:1-8. The union of the human and Divine natures, and the fulness of the Spirit that is in him, resemble the root of … For John, the two roots seem synonymous and mean “to love”; cf. !!!! (2 Corinthians 6:16, NASB95), !! 10. In contrast, Jesus is the true vine. If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself.—The branch regarded of itself, apart from (“except it abide in”) the vine, has no original source of life. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself. Here, as in Jesus' discourse on the Good Shepherd (10:1-18), we see an extended metaphor. He also made it clear that He acted only according to the will of God the Father (John 5:19; Matthew 26:39). (1 John 1:6-10, NASB95), John says "He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.”  (1 John 2:6), He goes on to say that "the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.”  (1 John 2:27, NKJV), I love what the Psalmist says about the presence of God "You will show me the path of life; In Your presence is fullness of joy; At Your right hand are pleasures forevermore." This notice the similarilarity to John … John 15:4. John 15:4 says: "Abide in me, and I in you. It is in and through you I live henceforth. The beginning of John 15:7 says "If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you." (John 15:7, NKJV) Verse 4 says "Abide in Me, and I in you. Yes, I am the vine; you are the branches. The union of the human and Divine natures, and the fulness of the Spirit that is in him, resemble the root of the vine made fruitful by the moisture from a rich soil. John 15:4. Cut off from the trunk, a branch is dead. "Thou hast brought a vine out … (Psalm 16:11, NKJV), And we are exhorted to "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. " As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. And in the middle of it all, he graciously reminds us that to be his means to bear fruit and we bear fruit by abiding in him. These 17 verses aren't long, b… Christ came to this earth as THE BRANCH and fulfilled all righteousness, qualifying to replace Satan and rule as King over all the earth.He proved His worthiness by remaining in full accord with His heavenly Father, and bearing the spiritual fruit that makes redemption and salvation possible. John 15:1-8. [⇑ See verse text ⇑] During His earthly ministry, Jesus' actions often inspired others to glorify God the Father (Matthew 9:8; Luke 17:15–16; John 11:4). (John 14:15-17; John 14:21,23-24; 1 John 1:6-7) Jesus Himself says here that each branch that does not bear fruit is taken away by the Father. I. John 15:8 "Herein is my Father glorified, that you bear much fruit; so shall you be my disciples." And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us." "Do not love the world or the things in the world. Jesus went on to remove any misunderstanding about what He meant (John 15:4). Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary 15:1-8 Jesus Christ is the Vine, the true Vine. It is believing the truth of His Word with an unshakable assurance. Great for Christian small group studies. . One entry into this passage could be some history and … Continue reading "Commentary on John 15:1-8" (1 John 4:20, NKJV), There are probably some things in the world you like very much. As the branch can’t bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me. The true vine was a way to contrast Jesus with Old Testament Israel… Others argue that Jesus’ words to depart were the later addition. Abide in Christ (John 15:4-8) 2. DLW 116. The meaning derived from John 15:1 is the primacy of Jesus Christ, forcefully expressed and meditated upon by St. Paul: ... John 15:4 . (Read John 15:1-8) Jesus Christ is the Vine, the true Vine. “‘I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. (1 John 3:6, NKJV), John says "Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. Other related passages (John 1:32-33; 3:36; 5:38; 6:56; 8:31, 35; 9:41; 12:46; Acts 27:31; 2Tim.3:14; 1Jn2:6, 10,14,17,19,24, 27,28; 3:6,9,14,15,17,24; 4:12,13,15,16; 2Jn2). We must be rooted in Him, not Israel, if we will bear fruit for God. 9. This is the promise which He Himself made to us: eternal life." It is a steadfast confidence that His word is true and His promises are sure. Colossians 1:27 says, "Christ in you, the hope of glory. John 15:1-8. That is not to say a believer must work to stay saved, but that he will remain in Christ because he is a believer. Those who remain in me, and I in them, will produce much fruit. John 15:8. (John 15:7, NKJV), Verse 4 says "Abide in Me, and I in you. You, however, continue [remain, or abide] in the things you have learned" (2 Timothy 3:13-14, NASB95). The sap flows from the vine to branch and tendril and leaf and fruit. First consider John 15:8 (emphasis added): "This is to my Father s glory that you bear much fruit showing yourselves to be my disicples." Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh?" As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me." As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me." Abiding in Love (vv. With this in mind it is good to look at the parallel between John 15:8 and John 13:34-35. John 15:11 says, "“These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be full.”  (John 15:11, NKJV). As long as it is in the vine, "from the nature of the case," the parent stock imparts its juices, and furnishes a constant circulation of sap adapted to the growth and fruitfulness of the branch. To abide in Christ is a cleaving to Him, in love. English Standard Version Update. The Expectation for the Believer, John says "If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth; but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. No. B. Piety then, manifested in good works, in love, and self-denial, is as natural, as easy, as unconstrained. !!!! I started with my kids by reading John 15:1-8. d)                  The feeding of the branch. I f we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us." If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (Galatians 2:20), Don’t even worry about the fruit, that’s not you concern "for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure." John 6:44,65; 15:16,19), but humans must respond (cf. In this particular passage, the role of the Father is then one of judgement against those who reject Jesus as the true vine, and with that the only source of life. See Special Topic at John 14:17. Again, it is necessary to note that John 15:4-8 deals with consequences of acceptance (fruitfulness) or … John 15:4-8 New International Version (NIV). We who live in California are surrounded by vineyards. So in the spiritual life, men apart from Christ have no original source of life and fruitfulness. John talks about church attendees who did not stay involved in a Christian fellowship: "They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us." God always initiates (cf. . (1 John 2:24-25, NASB95), Speaking to the Jews who believed in Him, Jesus said "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine" (John 8:31, NASB95), And He goes on to say in Chapter 12 that He has come “as Light into the world, so that everyone who believes in Me will not remain in darkness” (John 12:46, NASB95), Paul exhorted Timothy by saying that "evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. Jesus said the seed that "fell among the thorns, these are the ones who have heard, and as they go on their way they are choked with worries and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to maturity" (Luke 8:14, NASB95). b. Abide in me, and I in you. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.”  (1 John 4:16, NKJV), However, "If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?" Inductive Bible study on John 15:1-8. 4“Remain (Greek: meinate—from meno) in me, and I in you. If the branch should be cut off an instant, it would die and be fruitless. b)                  The realistic perspective of the believer. Christ came to this earth as THE BRANCH and fulfilled all righteousness, qualifying to replace Satan and rule as King over all the earth.He proved His worthiness by remaining in full accord with His heavenly Father, and bearing the spiritual fruit that makes redemption and salvation possible. (b) To study His teaching. So our piety, if we should be separate from Christ, or if we cease to feel our union to him and dependence on him, withers and droops. (5) I am the vine, you are the branches. The branch of itself is a lifeless organ, and only fulfils its functions when it is connected with the vine. The text includes Jesus's discourse on the vine and the branches, and also his reminder that no one has greater love than the one who lays down his life for his friends. We studied this text several years ago. John 3:16) and (2) as human society organized and functioning apart from God (cf. John 15:8. (1 John 3:24, NKJV), John makes it clear that "If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us. "the world" John uses this term in several ways: (1) the planet, as a metaphor for all mankind (cf. Abiding as Jesus’ Friends (vv. Abiding in Christ (John 15:4-8) It is only by remaining in close, vital contact with the vine that the branch can bring forth any fruit at all. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. JOHN 15:4-8. The VERB "chosen" in this context refers to the Twelve. By this we know that we abide in Him, and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit.”  (1 John 4:12-13, NKJV), Speaking about the love of God, John says "we have known and believed the love that God has for us. Commentary on John 15:1-8 View Bible Text In the promise of an “abiding” presence God’s Easter people find not some abstract speculation about a distant or imaginary Trinity, but an invitation to experience the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as a saving and liberating presence in … REMAIN IN ME, AND I IN YOU. When the Lord Jesus Christ was upon earth he was in a suffering state; and to this suffering image must all his people be conformed. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.”  (1 John 2:15, NKJV). 12-17) III. See John 15:4-5 (printed below) Remain in me, and I will remain in you. John 15:4 ‘Abide in Me’—these words sum up all Christian life; ‘I in you’ sum up all the promises of the Lord to the Christian. The branch cannot bear fruit by itself, it must remain in the vine; so neither can you bear fruit, unless you remain in me. (John 15:1-2) Jesus continued His discourse with the parable of the vine. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him…  Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God." What does John 15:8 mean? 5I am the vine. In John 15, Jesus describes himself as the true vine and his Father as the vinedresser. (c) To live by His example. The image, of course, has an Old Testament history with the vine used as a metaphor for the people of Israel, in both positive and negative ways. Beginning in John 13, Jesus gives a series of farewell addresses that continue until chapter 17. We are studying John 15:4-17 for Sunday, November 8. The beginning of John 15:7 says "If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you." 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